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Since I went to cash the last week of January, I’ve been writing about staying out of the market until we get a dominant trend. I’ve forecasted whipsaw and did not believe I had any kind of edge to trade the market in its current state. I’ve speculated that the shorts that made money on the dip likely lost most of their profits when the market rallied earlier this month. While day traders might be able to scalp some profits in this market, longer term trend and swing traders are trading in conditions that are far from ideal.

My main point has been to convey that it is ok to stay out of the market for substantial periods of time. Money can be made very quickly. Last year I made all my profits from January-May. The rest of the year was a total waste of time. There is no reason I can’t have a great year over a 3-6 month period. Moreover, I’m in this for building longer term wealth so even if 2010 only brings single digit returns all is not lost.

One high profile trader that I follow is Tim Knight over at Slope of Hope. Tim runs a bearish blog and I enjoy reading his posts to get a bearish perspective on things and also because he is a talented writer. Today he has a post titled “Frequency Modulation.”  In the post, Tim is honest and discusses the fact that he made some nice profits on the market’s move down in January only to see the profits evaporate when the market ran higher.

On January 19th, my portfolio had reached a nadir for the year (down about 2%). Over the next 13 trading sessions, little by little, I completely turned that around, and by February 5th, my portfolio was at a new high. I felt fantastic, and I had just had the biggest cash gain intraday of my entire life.

In the subsequent nine sessions, by February 19th, I was right back to where I was before. From the 19th to the 19th, I had come full circle.

While Tim is just one example, it does illustrate my point that playing every little move  is usually not worth it and that at least one well known short trader did not make any money during this brief correction. Tim is a skilled trader and the only thing the whipsaw took from Tim was his time. However, I suspect that many less experienced traders might have walked away from the whipsaw with a loss.

I really believe that “less is more” often applies to trading.

Imagine if your system was as simple as being long during bull markets and staying out of the market during downturns.

Learning how not to lose is so much more important than winning big. I see so many other traders out there touting huge returns over short periods of time. Here is an example of why I am wary when big returns come so fast. Imagine a hypothetical $100,000 portfolio and assume the risk free interest rate remains at 0%. The risk free rate is important because if treasuries were yielding 15% a 12% return is a bad year. If treasuries are yielding 0%, it is a good year (by most standards).

Trader A uses highly leveraged strategies such as options, futures and 3x ETFs to magnify returns.

TRADER A

Year Beginning Balance Return Ending Balance
2010 $100,000 40% $ 140,000.00
2011 $ 140,000.00 40% $ 196,000.00
2012 $ 196,000.00 -48% $ 101,920.00
2013 $ 101,920.00 75% $ 178,360.00
2014 $ 178,360.00 -40% $ 107,016.00
2015 $ 107,016.00 25% $ 133,770.00
2016 $ 133,770.00 -25% $ 100,327.50
2017 $ 100,327.50 30% $ 130,425.75
2018 $ 130,425.75 -20% $ 104,340.60

 

Trader B trades stocks and ETFs. Trader B certainly has to take on substantial risk to earn double digit returns but generally doesn’t use leverage. In rare instances, Trader B might use leverage if market volatility is extremely low (e.g, a VIX in the single digits). Trader B would never use leverage when the VIX is north of 30.

TRADER B

 

Year Beginning Balance Return Ending Balance
2010 $100,000 15% $ 115,000.00
2011 $ 115,000.00 21% $ 139,150.00
2012 $ 139,150.00 -8% $ 128,018.00
2013 $ 128,018.00 12% $ 143,380.16
2014 $ 143,380.16 7% $ 153,416.77
2015 $ 153,416.77 18% $ 181,031.79
2016 $ 181,031.79 -6% $ 170,169.88
2017 $ 170,169.88 17% $ 199,098.76
2018 $ 199,098.76 11% $ 220,999.63

 

Obviously everyone would rather be Trader B with the $220,999.63 than Trader A with $104,340.60. Trader B wasn’t perfect. 2012 and 2016 were both down years. There was also only 1 year above 20%. However, Trader B generally managed not to lose money. Meanwhile, Trader A earned 40% in 2010 and 2011 only to lose all profits at the end of 2012. 2013 was fantastic for Trader A. A whopping 75% return. Unfortunately, the –40% return in 2014 pretty much wiped out Trader A’s huge year in 2013.

My two points are first that simply not losing is a big part of winning. One big drawdown will take away years of winning. Second, traders should be wary of those touting huge gains over short periods of time. Keep a longer term view of things.

The following scenario is Trader A’s thinking from 2010-2014:

You are Trader A and are following a trader online for 6-9 months. You become impressed with the huge gains the trader has made over such a short time (the trader has verified their success by posting their account on covestor or similar service and you are confident it is not a scam). Lucky for you, the trader has a subscription service permitting you to follow their trades in real time. You signup and feel you are the luckiest man/woman in the world. After all, you are Trader A and just made a 40% return in 2010. In 2011, you secretly wonder if 2010 was just a fluke and whether the trader you are following just had a hot hand or the right strategy at the right time. But as 2011 precedes on, you not only feel more confident about the trader you are following, but you have bought into the trading style yourself. Y
ou are even passing on the gospel to other traders on the Internet and to your friends in real life. After all, 2011 ends and you are up another 40%. Your $100,000 portfolio has doubled in 2 years. You’re actually thinking about quitting your day job because your trading profits are now a substantial portion of your income!

2012 comes and things are not going so hot. Your account starts to dip but you understand that you can’t make money all the time. You’ve got your trusted system and the plan is to simply keep trading through it. Wow, you were not expecting this kind of cold streak. It seems like every trade is going against you. 2012 ends with a whopping –48% loss erasing all of the profits earned in 2010 and 2011.

You figure that you only lost profits and still have your principal and that you’ll see how 2013 goes. You knew you were a great trader! Wow, a good thing you didn’t quit in 2013. Your trading account becomes a money printing machine and you earn a return of 75%. Here comes 2014. You guessed it, a 40% drop wipes out most of your profits again. You suddenly feel that trading is eerily similar to playing craps in Las Vegas. The euphoria followed by the huge let down.

You are basically back where you started in 2010. You have about $7,000 in apparent profit although most of that money went to pay for subscription services. You have put in a lot of time and had a wild ride, but really don’t have anything to show for it. Moreover, if you simply put your money in a risk-free CD you would have made more money without any of the risk.

Even worse, your friend Trader B, that you often scoffed at as an “old school” trader, is now having the last laugh. Trader B has $45,000 in profits more than you and is also in much better physical shape. After all, Trader B wasn’t screaming at the computer screen during huge drawdowns and having sleepless nights.

I’m not saying that every trader earning huge returns is Trader A. What I am saying is that anyone earning these kind of returns should take a long and hard look to see if they might be Trader A. In terms of statistical probability, there is likely a very small group out there earning hyper returns over a long period of time without performance killing drawdowns (think Steven Cohen, although he likely has a certain edge that most retail and institutional traders don’t have access to). Maybe the subscription service you are subscribing to falls into that group. Maybe your trading system falls into that group. Anything is possible.

But the one thing that is an absolute fact is that almost all of these hyper- return portfolios you hear about on the Internet are Trader A (in fact, Trader A didn’t even claim returns of over 100% and managed to at least not lose money – many out there are actually much worse than Trader A). There simply are not that many Steven Cohens out there. So if you do see claims of hyper-returns, ask yourself whether you believe that the trader you are following is Steven Cohen or Trader A? Of course, the trader claiming the returns may not even be a good as Trader A. There is also Trader C out there. Trader C trades like a gambler in Vegas. This kind of trader earns a 100% return in 2010 but then suffers a 70% drawdown in 2011. At the end of 2011, Trader C would have lost 40% of their principal (a $100,000 account would be down to $60,000).

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  • JoeMarc
    This is one of the best "advise articles" I have read in a very long time, this was me!! Minus subscribing to one of those sites that say they have a 95% win stock pick service.... I dont consider myself a day trader but a middle ground swing or trend trader. Made some great moves and some bad moves.. WHY, you explained it in the article. There are many of us...., some dont learn from their lessons.. I have !! One way was to take profits, dont always be in the game AND DONT think your smarter than the BIG Money. Sold some property at goods highs, waited and then purchased a 100 unit apt bldg, CAP rate approx 8% but with hard work I can bounce that up to a steady 10% return not incld my equity rising and all the TAX write-offs.... Wait for the next real-estate correction less than 10yrs and buy another 100-150 Apt building if things go my way... happy, healthy etc....

    In short, great article, best advise I have read in a looooong while !!!!!
    My advise, buy some rental property, mid market to address not the lower band, not the higher band earning folks but right smack in the middle to lower.... LOTS of tenants who have okay jobs but not enough coin to buy their own due to family etc,,,

    Right on bro

    Thanks
    Joe
  • Good point. The stock market is not the only game in town.
  • RAINMAN1313
    trader a looks like solzilla. a losing trader that needs subs so they dont have to be a dishwaher boy
  • What I find interesting is that so many found 2009 tough because of the disbelief of the rally (myself included). Yet, in hindsight you don't get a much easier year to trade. A perfect trend that lasted 7-8 months with only 1-2 shakeout moves. We had ridiculous charts such as LQD that just creeped up a touch each day ever so neatly.

    Meanwhile, 2010 has been much more difficult. The indexes are basically where they were on January 1 and the dip and rally were not really large enough to trade effectively (Tim Knight's example).

    I'm somewhat worried that after the big moves of 2008-2009 (I've said this before) that 2010 may just be a long consolidation phase. I mean that would make sense wouldn't it?

    The good thing is that with my style I only buy when I can actually find stocks and sectors that are moving and that are technically sound. I'll see what I find when I do my review today. The last few weeks there has not been really anything to buy which is why I'm out of the market.

    Funny thing about google adsense is that as I type this there is an ad above that touts "How I turned $15K into $3.5M" using the techniques in this free stock trading course. I suppose my post is not good for my advertiser.
  • Nice post there. It's all about managing our emotions
  • Excellent post... You and I moved in the same direction around the same time. I've found a few gems here and there recently, but I've stayed largely in cash and taken the profits as they've come. I suspect we're in for a dive in the days ahead!
  • danny42nd
    Hello Mr.coffee
    thanks for good post. I had to confess, i am trade c type. I don't want blame
    others but xtrend cost me a lot 2009 but it is history. I try to not short instead
    wait for long signal but you know trading is addiction to me. I hope i can control myhself through this site. thank you
  • Good post. Yes, I've seen euphoric bull run profits evaporate later, lol. Also lost some profits shorting when I was in full bear mode. I will always remember March 9, 2009 at the market bottom. I was still in short mode and stubbornly held onto a Kraft option put, not believing the bottom was in. Ouch!

    I learned to take money off the table, so to speak, and not get too greedy plus not to think the streak would continue forever, lol. The Gist: I learned to sit out of the market and wait if I was uncertain. That's what I'm doing now, same as you. Of course, all this depends on the time frame, or multiple time frames, you are trading. I'm not tradinig any time frames presently.
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